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DISEASE ACTIVITY SCORING AND REMISSION Options
Monique-B
#1 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 1:14:45 AM Quote
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how do you score the pain ?. my rheumy asked me to score disease activity and fatigue . i assume a 10 is not being able to move im not quite sure how to do it , any advice ? . i still keep active but have pain , sometimes i take the declofenac but try and have a few days off then find i need it again i started meds dec 1st started mtx at 10 now on 12.5 then going upto 15 next week and 400 htx when do you know you are in remission completely pain free with no niggles ? no fatigue ? Im not there yet but determined to be ? ALWAYS LOOKING FOR ANSWERS ABOUT THIS DISEASE EVERY DAY IS A LEARNING DAY HOPE YOU ARE ALL WELL XXBigGrin
jenni_b
#2 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 8:42:21 AM Quote
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Yes Monique, worst possible pain is 10/10

I've got to fill in a pain diary for pain clinic
It measures pain, stress, irritability

There's never a time out of pain entirely for me
But it's not 10 all the time either

Hope you start responding well to the treatments
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sylviax
#3 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 9:16:46 AM Quote
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Hi Monique - sometimes it can be hard to decide how painful a joint actually is because we adapt and our brain gets used to it - it's called habituation. With the DAS score, the nurse looks at each individual joint and presses them to see how painful it is. I find that quite often joints don't hurt when they are pressed, but they hurt like hell when they bear weight (esp feet, ankles, knees,etc). At first I kept undervalueing the pain so my DAS seemed really low, but then I realised that I was giving a false impression, so I started to be more pessimistic. Now I've done it a few times it's slightly easier to compare how I feel now versus a few months ago - but it's far from an exact science.

I find it more relevant to compare what I can do with the joint - especially my hands and feet and elbows. I compare how easy it is to do the hand exercises that the OT gave me, and also whether I can stand on my toes and balance - that has steadily improved over the past 6 months, and I keep track of whether I can fully straighten my arms (that seems to vary day by day, so it must be inflammation doing that)

If you've got underlying joint damage then there is always likely to be some pain, but hopefully you will gradually notice that the inflammation gets less and so the pain from that will diminish as the meds do their job. It's not straightforward and there'll be ups and downs along the way!!! Good luck -Sylvia xx
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#4 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 9:52:40 AM Quote
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thanks sylvia you have just put an answer i can take on board,it makes sense to me alot more now,dorothy
Monique-B
#5 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:38:26 AM Quote
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Monique-B
#6 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:43:55 AM Quote
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thank you slyvia and jenny for your help its my first time a doing it so those pointers are good , have a good weekend xx
Paula-C
#7 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 1:55:42 PM Quote
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I don't like the question when having my DAS score done of how it affects me overall - pain - emotional - day to day living etc etc. What I have ended up doing is using 0 as everything is fine......half way, well it's there, I don't like it but I can manage this............and anything over half way is when things aren't very good at all and the pain etc is stopping me from doing what I would like to.

Last August I had my first assessment for anti tnfs, things at the time weren't very good at all and I scored it at just over 7. My DAS score that day I think was around 7.2, I did have around 12/13 swollen and painful joints and my CRP was 87. I was worried that my score influenced the DAS score alot, but after doing some googling I found a site with a DAS score calculator. I put in my results, I don't know if my CRP or ESR result was used by the specialist nurse, I only had my CRP so I used that. I then kept decreasing my own score down to 1 and it didn't really make much difference at all to the DAS score. I now think that they just ask us to do it so we think that we are putting some input into the result.

Here is the link

http://www.4s-dawn.com/DAS28/DAS28.html

Hope it helps

Paula x
Maria_R
#8 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:22:23 AM Quote
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Thanks everyone for these posts- it's something that has confused me a lot. Very helpful.

Maria
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